[ATrpms-users] Would it be possible to give a warning before you wipe out the Fedora8 atrpms

Jeffrey J. Kosowsky atrpms at kosowsky.org
Sun Nov 2 03:14:37 CET 2008


Grant McChesney wrote at about 20:04:40 -0600 on Saturday, November 1, 2008:
 > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky <atrpms at kosowsky.org>wrote:
 > 
 > > Fedor Pikus wrote at about 17:00:21 -0700 on Saturday, November 1, 2008:
 > >  > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky <
 > > atrpms at kosowsky.org> wrote:
 > >  > > Even better would be if you could retain them ;)
 > >  > > but assuming you can't it would be good to have something like a 30
 > >  > > day transition/warning if possible.
 > >  >
 > >  > This is a serious issue. Fedora 9 has *huge* number of problems, large
 > >  > and small. The half-baked KDE4 which, even with the update, is nowhere
 > >  > ready for release. GDM is still missing some basic functionality like
 > >  > auto-login. Synaptic cannot be used at all, and the developers are
 > >  > pointing fingers at each other every few months in Bugzilla comments.
 > >  >
 > >  > May be the Fedora 10 is better. But at least until it has enough
 > >  > exposure and we know more about it, Fedora 8 is the last usable
 > >  > release. The support for it should not be dropped until there is an
 > >  > alternative, and right now (not counting the still-unknown Fedora 10)
 > >  > the only alternative is Ubuntu/Gentoo/etc.
 > >  >
 > > Additionally, as Linux and Fedora continue to mature, I find less and
 > > less reason to upgrade every 6 months.
 > > I know that Centos is available and has a longer upgrade cycle, but I
 > > prefer the choice of upgrading to the latest when needed and then not
 > > having to upgrade until I need it again. At least with this strategy,
 > > for some of the time I have the latest and greatest. And then it is up
 > > to me when to upgrade to the latest and greatest again.
 > >
 > > Given that disk size doubles every 1-2 years (with corresponding drops
 > > in price), I would hope that the cost of keeping old rpms available
 > > wouuld be now quite near minimal (and as I mentioned before, if it
 > > would help, I would be willing to send a small contribution to defray
 > > a share of the cost). Then depending on the burden, you could decide
 > > when (if ever) to update the old rpms for critical bug fixes/changes.
 > >
 > > The problem for me with Centos (in my non-production environment) is
 > > that then I am NEVER current and only get further out of date as time
 > > passes.
 > >
 > > _______________________________________________
 > >
 > >
 > 
 > For more than 2 years now, Axel has dropped support for distros as they have
 > reached their respective end-of-life dates.  See announcement here:
 > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/atrpms/announce/18
 > 
 > This is one of the primary reasons I jumped from Fedora to CentOS.
 > 
I was just suggesting a possible reconsideration and was offering to
contribute my share of $$$ (or Euros) if money is the issue.



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