[ATrpms-users] Would it be possible to give a warning before you wipe out the Fedora8 atrpms
Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
atrpms at kosowsky.org
Sun Nov 2 03:14:37 CET 2008
Grant McChesney wrote at about 20:04:40 -0600 on Saturday, November 1, 2008:
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky <atrpms at kosowsky.org>wrote:
>
> > Fedor Pikus wrote at about 17:00:21 -0700 on Saturday, November 1, 2008:
> > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky <
> > atrpms at kosowsky.org> wrote:
> > > > Even better would be if you could retain them ;)
> > > > but assuming you can't it would be good to have something like a 30
> > > > day transition/warning if possible.
> > >
> > > This is a serious issue. Fedora 9 has *huge* number of problems, large
> > > and small. The half-baked KDE4 which, even with the update, is nowhere
> > > ready for release. GDM is still missing some basic functionality like
> > > auto-login. Synaptic cannot be used at all, and the developers are
> > > pointing fingers at each other every few months in Bugzilla comments.
> > >
> > > May be the Fedora 10 is better. But at least until it has enough
> > > exposure and we know more about it, Fedora 8 is the last usable
> > > release. The support for it should not be dropped until there is an
> > > alternative, and right now (not counting the still-unknown Fedora 10)
> > > the only alternative is Ubuntu/Gentoo/etc.
> > >
> > Additionally, as Linux and Fedora continue to mature, I find less and
> > less reason to upgrade every 6 months.
> > I know that Centos is available and has a longer upgrade cycle, but I
> > prefer the choice of upgrading to the latest when needed and then not
> > having to upgrade until I need it again. At least with this strategy,
> > for some of the time I have the latest and greatest. And then it is up
> > to me when to upgrade to the latest and greatest again.
> >
> > Given that disk size doubles every 1-2 years (with corresponding drops
> > in price), I would hope that the cost of keeping old rpms available
> > wouuld be now quite near minimal (and as I mentioned before, if it
> > would help, I would be willing to send a small contribution to defray
> > a share of the cost). Then depending on the burden, you could decide
> > when (if ever) to update the old rpms for critical bug fixes/changes.
> >
> > The problem for me with Centos (in my non-production environment) is
> > that then I am NEVER current and only get further out of date as time
> > passes.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
>
> For more than 2 years now, Axel has dropped support for distros as they have
> reached their respective end-of-life dates. See announcement here:
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/atrpms/announce/18
>
> This is one of the primary reasons I jumped from Fedora to CentOS.
>
I was just suggesting a possible reconsideration and was offering to
contribute my share of $$$ (or Euros) if money is the issue.
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