[ATrpms-users] mythmusic error???

Axel Thimm Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
Tue Jul 31 08:16:07 CEST 2007


On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 09:47:33PM -0400, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote:
> Well, if it is part of 'extras' which in turn is merged with core as
> of FC7, wouldn't it make sense for atrpms to drop it too?

Check bugzilla. I even tried to use that package and it broke
mythmusic/aac. The libmp4ff has been a PITA for quite some time,
thanks to short-sighted packaging done.

The whole story is that the package in extras doesn't even have
libmp4ff because the livna maintainer considered it unnesseccary (for
the other packages he maintained) and since livna did not carry mythtv
he didn't care (see below). Unfortunately this package was then
imported into Fedora by Matthias, not the best idea in my opinion.

So, not everything in extras/core is gold. This is an example where a
rather rogue packages made it in there, and really requires to be
replaced:

o no upstream exists, the original packager just created a fake
  upstream and modded it to his personal needs.
o the persons that created the fake upstream gave up due to lack of
  time, so even this forked upstream can be considered dead
o no other Linux distro does it that way
o all 3rd party repos are busted (other than livna and freshrpms)
o breaks applications like mythmusic/aac and the like

Here are the glory details:

http://bugzilla.atrpms.net/show_bug.cgi?id=832#c13
| I googled and found these quotes:
| 
| http://bugzilla.livna.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1040#c8
| > Since there is no code in livna or fedora extras that depend on libmp4ff at
| > the moment, this issue is low priority.
| 
| http://bugzilla.livna.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1088#c1
| > We dont provide mythtv, and rpm.livna.org is consistent with itself and
| > with fedora core/extras. You're probably mixing incompatible repositories.
| 
| I think the issue is known and ack'd at livna and you already
| provided the fix to rectify it. I'm promoting cross-repo
| compatibility, but it can't be fixed on ATrpms' side, because it's
| not broken there. Reading through these bug reports looks like
| someone decided to start static linking of some parts, something
| that Fedora Core is rather against anyway.
| 
| I hope you can convince the respective packager (either Noa or Dams
| or both, at least according to these reports) to fix the
| compatibility issues.
| 
| Otherwise someone at livna posted the workaround:
| http://bugzilla.livna.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1088#c2
| > OK, I added the following line to /etc/yum.repos.d/livna.repo in the
| > [livna] section and that seems to fix the problem:
| > 
| > exclude=*faad2*

http://bugzilla.atrpms.net/show_bug.cgi?id=832#c19
| An update: Some weeks ago I rebuilt mythmusic (and everything else
| using faad2) with an faad2 w/o the helper libmp4ff exported
| (e.g. the way livna does it, so compatibility was restored since),
| but aac support silently died due to that change, mythmusic
| *requires* libmp4ff (!).
| 
| So it is not only a run-time incompatibility, but affects even
| build-time and makes libmp4ff obviously non-internal. Furthermore
| Debian/Ubuntu and Mandrake stumbled over this, too (in different
| context), and reactivated libmp4ff, which is what I'm also going to
| (have to) do to fix the broken aac support in mythmusic.
| 
| Please, if s/o on the Cc is still in contact with the respective
| livna packagers (Garrick?) ask them to undo the patching otherwise
| ATrpms and livna will become imcompatible again wrt faad2 related
| packages. The argument is that mythmusic cannot be built with aac
| support otherwise.

-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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