[ATrpms-users] Whither perl helper module?

Philip Prindeville philipp_subx at redfish-solutions.com
Fri Jan 13 22:31:06 CET 2006


Axel Thimm wrote:

>On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 01:37:31AM -0700, Philip Prindeville wrote:
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>>I was looking for the unsatisfied dependency atrpms-perl-module-helper,
>>but couldn't find it...
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>That's part of the atrpms package.
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>>And as there's no way to know what all of the FC3 files are without
>>going into each individual directory...
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>Yep, that's why there are tools like apt/yum/smart and the like. A
>website isn't really useful anymore after a repo grows beyond a couple
>dozens of packages.
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>>Thought I might point this out.
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>>Also, the link:
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>>http://www.atrpms.net/install.html
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>>talks about modifying your /etc/yum.conf file, but I was thinking at a
>>link that one could click on and save into the /etc/yum.repos.d/ directory
>>would be even easier...
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>It's even easier than that. The Config files are stored in packages
>and you only need to install these packages.
>E.g. atrpms-package-config or medley-package-config. Don't install the
>latter unless you understand the implications (e.g. you activate all
>possible repos at once)
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Ok.  So I installed atrpms.noarch.

Now how do I turn off the automatic updates so that things only get
updated manually?

Does it suffice to turn permissions off on /etc/cron.daily/0check4updates?

Or should I comment out everything in /etc/sysconfig/check4updates?


>>One thing that wasn't clear to me from the installation instructions: will
>>yum try to upgrade installed FC3 packages with packages from ATrpms?
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>That's the idea. Packages in ATrpms replacing FC3 packages do so for a
>reason. E.g. if you want to run smart you need a newer rpm package and
>the like.
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>>Because ideally I'd like to have yum only look aside into that repo when
>>I tell it to.  I guess I could disable the repo, and then force yum to look
>>into it with --enablerepo=atrpms ...
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>Yes, you could do that. This is not a supported mode of running
>ATrpms packages as it is known to break dependencies (package foo
>requires bar with extra feature barbar, but you just decided to not
>let bar upgrade to this package).
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>Just be aware that using ATrpms that way you shouldn't file any bug
>reports :)
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Understood.  I prefer to beat up on the Fedora folks so that FC3 gets
updated... however slowly...  The ALSA code, however, is hideously
old...

-Philip

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>>Hmm.  Might be fodder for the web pages...
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>ATrpms' web pages suck beyond anything else. Yes, ATrpms needs docs
>and I hope to manage to get a wiki in place for anyone to add what is
>missing.
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