[ATrpms-users] Re: Other concerns (was [Re: Madwifi website has changed.])

[Axel Thimm]

Please use the list.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 02:36:54PM -0800, Aaron J. Outhier wrote:
> Dear Axel,
> What is "smart"?? I've seen references to it before, usually along with
> references to the usual "yum" for redhat and others, as well as "apt-get" for
> debian. I normally use yum, as it is included with Fedora 4. Is "smart" an
> add-on pkg, or an alternative to "yum", or something else?? The cmd-line you
> provided looks identical to what I would use for yum. eg 'yum install madwifi
> madwifi-kmdl-<blah>'. I never thought of using `uname -r`, thanks for the idea!
> ;>
> 
> This does me little good though, if I just want to download the RPM and save it
> to a zip disk. I usually tell yum to "clean packages" periodically to reduce
> clutter, so it wouldn't be in my cache.

smart is a depsolver like yum. You can use the same syntax with yum.

If you instist on manual downloading, then I can't make it any easier
for you. There are just a lot of kernels and kernel flavours, so you
end up with a lot of kmdls you have to choose from. depsolvers like
yum and smart are just made for that purpose, to ease picking,
downloading and installing packages.

> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 07:55:03PM -0800, Aaron J. Outhier wrote:
> > > Dear Mr. Thimm,
> > > I was looking at your current list of kernel module RPMs for madwifi, I am
> > > rather confused every time I go to download one of these. The kernel module
> > > packages don't seem to be in any particular order. This is a problem, as I
> > > can't just skim through the list and pick out the right one.
> > 
> > That's why it is easier to use a depsolver, e.g. with samrt you simply
> > say
> > 
> > smart install madwifi madwifi-kmdl-`uname -r`
> > 
> > > Secondly, I recently had to re-install my Fedora Core 4. Fortunately I had
> > the
> > > foresight to download the madwifi and wpa_supplicant packages ahead of time
> > so
> > > that I could get my wireless Internet setup for the purpose of getting the
> > rest
> > > of my system updates. Unfortunately, I grabbed the oldest kmdl RPM you had
> > that
> > > matched my hardware, without double-checking the kernel revision installed
> > by
> > > the Fedora install media. Naturally, your oldest version was newer than the
> > > initial kernel. As such, I was unable to get an Internet connection going.
> > You
> > > may want to make certain that support for kernel revision 2.6.13--whatever
> > is
> > > available for download.
> > 
> > For FC4 that would be rather kernel-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4. ATrpms' policy
> > is to not provide kmdls for all possible kernels in the distribution
> > due to size and time constraints. Users are happier to have the last
> > two kernels supported than the last and first.
> > 
> > > Third item: You have available from your site under Fedora Core 4
> > "ltmodem".
> > > However, when I download and run the package through "rpm -i
> > ltmodem-xx.yy.zz",
> > > I get a failed dependency for 'ltmodem-kmdl-<kernel-revision>.at'. However,
> > the
> > > only packages available are the base ltmodem and src RPMs - there are
> > listings
> > > for 'ltmodem-kmdl-*".
> > 
> > That's because ltmodem does not build against newer kernels anymore,
> > so there are no kmdls at this time.
> > 
> > > Last, but not least: When I installed your
> > > 'atrpms-package-config-103-1.rhfc4.at.i386.rpm' package (before the
> > > re-install), yum complained of something about duplicate entries for , I
> > think,
> > > 'updates-released', and one other standard, built-in Fedora repository.
> > (I'm
> > > running in Windows right now, so I'm going by memory).
> > 
> > You need to upgrade fedora-release, too.
> 
> Sincerely,
>  Aaron J. Outhier
>   GarlicSalt at Verizon.net
>   GarlicSalt2 at Yahoo.com
>   GarlicSalt2 at Gmail.com

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Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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