[ATrpms-devel] ATrpms stats for deciding on EOLing distros

[Paulo Cavalcanti]

Hi, Jarod and Axel

well, I think that the problem with keeping a Fedora system for a long
time, is that gnome is not updated. So several applications do not build
anymore. Migrating from fedora 4 to 5  has the only advantage of offering
gnome 2.14, which is really much better than gnome 2.10. However,
I do not like the new hal and gnome-mount. Too much windows-like for my
taste. But people should like them, though. On the other side, gcc 4.1 has
the "extra qualification error", which seems completely nonsense for me.

In the myth-tv guide (very good by the way), people are advised to upgrade
their kernels always. Well, I think that an ordinary user should not try to
fix what is not broken. Every time a kernel is updated there is a
possibility of a broken module, specially video4linux. It is really hard to
cope with all the different video hardware, analog x digital etc. We are
very lucky for having Axel interacting with people from Mercurial. So, in my
opinion, if a myth box is working well, do not touch it. Just enjoy.

Using RHEL on the other hand, has the advantage of stability, because
nothing is upgraded, but security updates are always there. Very good for a
server, but for a workstation is like driving always the same old car. There
is no fun ...

Finally, the old distros are unusable as workstations anyway. I still have
some servers running RH 7.3, because I do not think they will resist a
system upgrade (7 year old IBM Celeron 500 computers - almost
indestructible). So, go ahead, Axel. The space for storing all those rpms is
finite anyway.

/Paulo Roma.

On 7/29/06, Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at atrpms.net> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:01:10AM -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 17 July 2006 06:40, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > > o FC5 and FC4 almost on the same level still.
> >
> > Heh, I've probably contributed to that by not updating a certain
> > document for FC5 still...
>
> Evil Jarod! ;)
>
> > > o Rather few EL users.
> >
> > How heavily do you think MythTV plays a role in that fact? RHEL5
> > should be a better MythTV platform than RHEL4 (better DVB support
> > possible), might even shift to recommending it myself...
>
> Yes, I also anticipate RHEL5. It will already come equipped with a ton
> of reasonable drivers and building kmdls will also become easier
> (currently v4l won't build on 2.6.9).
>
> Maybe there will be a shift from FC to RHEL in mythtv land, but in
> general I thing RHEL has that few users because RHEL users are by
> definition conservative and want to keep their systems clean of 3rd
> parties.
>
> > I'd more or less just mirror the FL schedule to start the distro
> demotion
> > process. Perhaps give people a few months (3?) of the distro in the
> demoted
> > state, then proceed with step 4.
>
> See also the parallel reply on this. I'd keep the bits around till the
> end of the year, so people can migrate or decide to pick them
> up. Noone will hopefully do the latter, but offering the choice is the
> important bit here :)
> --
> Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
>
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